It was the best of times
Well, it has come time for me to stop raiding with Lexington. Lately (the last 3-5 weeks) things have just been too bad, I just can't take whats been going on for this period of time, wiping on kalecgos for 2.5-3 hours every week, and Brutallus for the other 2-3 days. These are bosses we've killed over and over to the point of people low bidding on T6 and almost DE'ing Kalecgos T6. People blowing up in the safe zone, chaining burns, not using AR gear for Kalec or felmyst, not having run speed enchants for felmyst, using bloodberry elixirs on bosses, etc etc. It has gotten old spending 50g per wipe on brutallus for hours every night. I don't know what the problem really is, I just know I can't deal with it anymore, I am not having fun raiding anymore and raiding is one of the only reasons I play this game. If I am not having fun doing it, then I need to stop, take some time off and find out what I want to do. I have enjoyed the time with everyone and I can't say there is anyone I don't like, save for some people that we have had that were gkicked or gquit anyways. I wish you the best, and I hope that you guys end up getting things back together and finishing up sunwell. I will probably be on KT for another week or so before I transfer to another server. Again, I wish you the best and hope you guys get back on track.

Well, 4 weeks ago we hadn't even killed Brutallus yet so I wouldn't call that a bad time. Yes, the last 2 weeks have been difficult---the same difficulties 99% of raiding guilds are having now. You've quit the guild now two out of two times we've had progression problems even briefly, which I suppose is a perfect record. I'm actually glad that your character as a quitter is crystal clear now so we won't have to deal with it come the expansion.

It's been fun playing with you, and I really am sorry to see you go. I can understand your frustration at the state of our raids lately, but it seems almost impossible to avoid with all the pre-Wrath issue just about every guild has been having (burnout, people disappearing/quitting until Wrath, recruitment drying up, etc.) That said, I'm having a hard time understanding why you left. If you plan on raiding for the next six weeks, any guild you'd get into is likely suffering from the same pre-Wrath slump that we are. That'll likely improve in 3.0, but that's true for any guild, Lex included. If you're planning on taking a break until Wrath, why not stay? Things will almost certainly improve here - hell, we're in a position to grab a few server firsts. Perhaps it's just the mediocre raiding environment on KT, I dunno. At any rate, I wish you the best of luck. Goodbye, Tall. :(

Yes Bod, I'm a quitter, because I don't like to deal with people being retarded. You call it bad luck, 3 hours of wiping is beyond bad luck, people are fucking up, and no one wanted to do anything about it, no punishment, or anything. Yes I quit the first time, partly for the same reason, but the bigger reason was I had schedule conflicts and couldn't raid. I am not going to raid when I am not having fun, I was not having any fun whatsoever. I was spending 400g per night on haste pots/demonslayers so peopel could fuck up, chain burns, not heal tanks, etc etc. And having your high and mighty attitude towards this just shows how unappreciative you are of the people who actually put in effort, I put in 150% every single night I raided, I theorycrafted for hours on end trying to help us progress through hyjal/bt, I always had flasks, elixirs, well fed's for EVERY single thing we did, trash, bosses, everything. So don't you talk to me about being a quitter. Although I didn't expect it to be much different of a response from you, you've always come off as the type of person who thinks you are better than others, for whatever reason. If this is the kind of attitude you show to other people/guilds, its no wonder that the other guilds on the server hate us.

things turn bad and you jump ship. You have done this before to us. I thought we were all closer then this now tho, too bad. You complain about people quitting and then quit, interesting.

You always put in a lot of effort, which I appreciate. Yet you are unable to step outside your own bubble to realize that many of our recent issues are due to bringing in new people who don't have the same familiarity with the fights, not just random people being retards. Your instinct is to blame others rather than understand the root cause. But I guess the issue is insufficient "punishment"? I'm sure that you can find a guild somewhere that will punish members as you wipe on Mu'ru for the next 5 weeks.

Yes lately things have been difficult. Its almost as if raiding in an end game guild can be difficult and sometimes straining. I am surprised you didn't blame our attempts on the random number generator, like you do everything else. If you want to play a game in any sort of serious manner and can't stand having a rough patch then perhaps you need to go to the land of oz where everything's chipper and your mommy can tell you your not a whiner or a person with a fragile ego and insecurities. The Land of Oz in this case is used as another meaning for lala land which is another meaning for him having his head up his ass, which is quite a feat considering the size of that thick skull. Its got enough hot air in it to fill a dirigible. I wish you luck none the less, your a good fury war, its to bad your attitude isn't as good as your dps.

Look. I love talliara more than most of you in the guild so my opinion is definately biased. But he makes VERY valid points. Paying this much gold to wipe on bosses due to stupid mistakes IS pointless. Maybe i just have more patience than Tall, but i'm not quitting raiding because it's the only fun thing in WoW atm. But what i totally despise is the way you are treating him calling him a traitor, a quitter and implying that he has given anything but his very best. The very reason that physical dps is as high as it is at this point (which constitutes a LARGE portion of our dps) is because of the theorycrafting talliara and i have done in preparation for brutallus. We have analyzed all of our WWS, critiqued dpsers, given suggestions, and given our full 100% to our progression. If we didn't have talliara in guild i am 110% percent sure we'd be stuck on phase 2 of illidan. Now i'm not insulting anyone of the guild or calling nthem subpar at all, i'm just saying that if talliara thinks it's time of rhim to move on, we should all respect that wish and treat him like the savior of the guild that he is. I'm not saying that everyone in the guild didn't contribute to our BC progression, because it took all of us to get this far, but if anyone contributed more than anyone else, talliara is your man. Tall troubleshot gear with every melee and made sure we were all performing at our peak and that's the main reason we were able to kill brutallus. I will not support ANY insulting of the person who got us as far as we are today. I'm drunk, so i'm going to bed. Talliara... i love you man.

Yes jumping ship when things get bad makes you a real stand up person. What values you must have.

I'm going to venture that there are maybe 50 or so guilds across all the US servers that are still raiding, but either haven't killed KJ or are still recruiting people with pre-Twins experience, and aren't running into the same attrition and attendance issues that we are. The BC expansion did the same thing two years ago. People stop feeling like their accomplishments mean anything, and become less determined to succeed, or more willing to be absent from raids over the smallest things. The fact that we can even still field a raid at all puts us ahead of the majority of guilds. Notice how most guilds across all servers have already quit raiding altogether? Good luck finding this dream guild of yours (you can take this as a genuine or sarcastic comment; it's up to you), though I expect you'll end up in The Departed and won't transfer at all. There are reasons to leave a guild, and times where it may be warranted. In this case however, I think the reasoning is sort of stupid. I told you yesterday, and I am very rarely wrong about such things. But it's to be expected. There are people that will jump ship at the first sign of trouble, rather than trying to work through it. It's indicative of a weaker personality. I could make an analogy about rats here, but I'll refrain. I'd like to arrogantly say that we'll be better off without you and good riddance, but that's not true. Nonetheless, we will go on, we will get over the current hump (in LK if not when 3.0 hits), we will get back to progressing. We'll probably even get a few server firsts. It's a shame you won't be there with us when they happen. Much as I would like to say I'm shocked though, I can't say I'm surprised that you're leaving. I bet other officers that you would be among the first to drop if we ever ran into trouble again. I'm disappointed to be right (yet again!) in this case, but that's neither here nor there. At least I was able to keep you from getting the glaive. I was originally just going to say good luck, and keep my criticisms and comments to whispers, but I think your parting barb against Bod was unwarranted and low. Bod doesn't even talk much on the forums/publicly in game, and when he does it's usually to say something worthwhile. He's at least a more ideal public representative than someone who makes incendiary comments to start drama between us and Malicious at every scattered opportunity (and probably also more ideal than someone who delights in writing long spiels to verbally own idiots, sadly enough for me). I'm not sure where you think you get off.

Yes, I remember chatting with you the first time I quit, your exact words to me were, "If we don't kill mag this week I found a guild I'll probably transfer to so I can get out of here." Luckily Mag did die the same day you said you would transfer if he wasn't killed. You and Talisee were the two officers I had the most respect for, but obviouisly that respect wasn't warranted. I'm glad you were able to "stop" me from getting the glaive, must make you feel all warm inside that you stopped one of the few people in the guild who gave their all every raid from getting a good weapon. As for the things I say to Malicious on the forums, all Ryoko and his guild have ever done, is bash on us since SSC, maybe not in public, but it was there. So yea I didn't care when I said anything about them. I've said what I wanted to say, bash on me as you will. No I will not end up in The Departed.

The difference being that I didn't quit. I stayed the first time and contributed to our turn-around and success (along with many others of course). You left and came back when we were over the hump. Now you're leaving again, and I still haven't gone anywhere. Where do the examples overlap again? You can keep your respect. If it's that easy to lose, it didn't mean anything to begin with. Your respect and $1.50 will buy me a soda. I don't need validation from a quitter.

Can you really not see why were angry? really? Your freaking out because we've stalled a little bit. We've blown through t6 and into sunwell, we slow down for 3 weeks and you bail? I thought we were friends i guess. I never thought some small hiccup (thats all it fucking is) in our raiding would cause you to just bail on us. I feel very disappointed in you, I always thought you were a cool guy who had class. I defended you when people talked shit about you even. Its funny how Kyt runs to your side to defend you. Because as I and some others know, you would definitely not do the same. You tried to get him kicked even on multiple occasions.

Because you keep editing more stuff in. When did I say I felt warm inside for preventing you from getting a glaive? I felt that your character was such that there was a good possibility of losing you if we ever ran into a roadblock, so I didn't want the loss of morale when our only orange left. That says nothing of personal desire; it was purely from an administrative standpoint that I advocated that argument. I had a lot of respect for you too, especially as a player. And really, I still do. I think your personality leaves a lot of be desired (this being a case in point), but it doesn't mean you weren't the best warrior I ever played with. But keep going with the persecution angle. You make it sound so bad that we didn't give you the glaive, while you are here making your Goodbye topic and leveling all your snide criticisms at everyone. Nothing at all about that to suggest it would have been a bad decision.

You didn't quit, because the boss died the same day you said you were going to quit, which is exactly what you told me, "if he doesn't die I'm going to quit", he died, you didn't quit. If he hadn't died I have no doubt you would have left. "Warm" inside was directed at your comment "I'm glad I kept you from getting the glaive." Which indicates you feel good about yourself for stopping me from getting it. The glaive issue played a part in this, I was told the week before it dropped "if Ruhe isn't in the raid you get the glaive if it drops, because we will never give a glaive to Kyt" well, glaive drops, its announced in vent Kyt is getting it, without even so much as a "hey Talli would you be ok with it if we gave this to Kyt?" You know what, I would have not had any problems with it if someone had asked me how I felt about it, and it probably would have ended up in me not quitting where I have now, a little consideration goes a long way. Before you start any kind of argument against it, if this was any kind of "friends" someone would have had the consideration to ask if it was ok. Anyways, I hope you guys do well, I hope you pull a Mag and turn around and go kill KJ, I just don't want to be a part of it anymore.